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- Mr Gardiner provides six paragraphs in response to my confirmation
that place names can be important in helping to identify a site
of such significance (my manuscript page 150). Since I
make the point that the interpretations are speculative, I really
wonder why Mr Gardiner feels that it is important to try to counter
my statements, since his speculation on the place names, must
be as valid as mine. Thus enforcing my case that investigation
by qualified archaeologists is therefore valid.
- In Mr Gardiner's opening statement, his paragraph 8.1, he
states "Place names, however, are rarely a record of events
of national importance". He then goes on to say in the
same paragraph - "The town of Battle is an apparent exception
to this general principal". OOPS - I'm not sure this
is your case Mr Gardiner , I think you are making mine. The point
is that if the site is important often the name can carry through.
- In any event I would like to remind Mr Gardiner of his own
words his book The South East to AD 1000 - "Place names
give an insight into the Anglo-Saxon landscape and settlement
which the excavated evidence alone cannot do. They reflect the
way in which countryside was perceived and the manner in which
it was used. Unfortunately though, the study of place names is
still at a very early stage
The main problem which has faced
scholars is that it is very difficult to date the formation of
a place name, because its first record in any document may be
many centuries after it was first used".
- What Mr Gardiner is saying in his book is that he cannot possibly
know whether his assumptions are correct. Therefore my assumptions
are just as valid as his. However because I know that the Norman
landing site is at Wilting, and he does not, because he has not
looked at the excavations, my justification for tying the names
to the events of that time must have the potential to be more
valid.
- In my manuscript page 150 I claim that Monkham Wood,
an ancient wood in the centre of the farm, and situated between
the upper and lower camp, may have been named as such because
William employed monks on the night before the battle to negotiate
with Harold, and this is where they were camped. Mr Gardiner disagrees
but provides no other reason why Monkham wood is so named. Monk-ham
being a quite legitimate camp or place of abode of the monks.
- In my manuscript page 150 I suggest that the name Sandrock,
the field where they actually landed, is the origination of the
term Senlac (Sannde roc) in French. This might be one of my wilder
connections, but it is undoubtedly a great coincidence that Sandrock
field is where the Normans landed and Sandrock hill leads from
Wilting to the battle site. My own view is that time will tell
on this. I do not rely on this evidence and Mr Gardiner (para
8.3 of his critique) cannot prove there is no connection, preferring
to rely on an interpretation of Senlac that is not proven either.
- Bulverhythe on the other hand has a well reported history
and is covered in my manuscript page 151. Mr Gardiner even seeks
to disagree with me on this, pointing out that it means "the
landing place or hythe of the burgesses". Yet in his
own book he says Bulverhythe means "the harbour of the
citizens". It appears he cannot agree with himself, so
it must be even harder to agree with me. I would prefer to rely
on Mrs Margaret Gelling, who was referred to me by the history
journalist for the Independent newspaper, who has been researching
my evidence. He says, and I have no reason to doubt him, that
she is the foremost place name expert in the country. She states
in her letter to me dated 3rd May 1995 "Bulverhythe
cannot refer to the Norman Invasion. There are thirty plus major
place names containing Old English Hyth. They are on rivers (as
is Redgeland) or at the junction of fen with firm ground. It
is a place name term for an inland port, and I cannot imaging
Old English burhware "town dwellers" being used by an
invading army."
- Although writing a letter in the belief that she was dismissing
my evidence, of course it provides conclusive name place evidence
to support the inland port. Hence Bulverhythe indeed means landing
place of the citizens (or townspeople if you prefer Ms Gellings
use of English) at an unstated inland port, where Redgeland now
stands. Place name evidence that directly supports the Invasion
story, no matter how remote it may be. Mr Gardiner does not argue
the point and appears to accept that my supposition that the name
is connected to a port is correct, because he does not challenge
this particular aspect of my manuscript. The fact that
it is an inland port does however have major relevance that has
been ignored in the past.
- Paragraphs 8.5.1 and 8.5.2 of Mr Gardiners work deal with
the name Redgeland, dealt with in my manuscript page 151. As stated
earlier in paragraphs 140 to 157 of this presentation.
- I have made the case that the names were transposed by the
spoken word and are not related to their origins. In consequence
Gardiner's reliance on traditional derivatives do not apply ,
as in his paragraph 8.5.1. He quotes a date of 1433 for the Abbey
Survey whilst Redgeland dates back to 1399 in the Court Rolls.
This does not prove anything since using his own words "The
main problem which has faced scholars is that it is very difficult
to date the formation of a place name, because its first record
in any document may be many centuries after it was first used"as
is likely in this case.
- In the case of his paragraph 8.5.2 the use of the name at
the Abbey site has no relevance to the authenticity or otherwise
of the name at the original port of Hastings. Mr Gardiner seems
more interested in make something out of the Battle of Hastings
and the battlefield than he does about Wilting. I cannot see that
this paragraph has any relevance to the Norman camp and landing
site at Wilting and should be dismissed.
- On page 16 of Mr Gardiner's manuscript he presents a summary
of the historical evidence. Here he invokes the law of Occam's
Razor. A particularly beutiful piece of philosophical doctrine
made famous by Bertrand Russell in the thirties I believe.
- It is what I would call a classic debunking tool for philosophers
which states that reductionism ultimately explains everything
in terms of the known.
- Occam's razor is a logical principal attributed to William
of Occam, although it was used by some scholastic philosophers
prior to him. The principal states that a person should not increase,
beyond what is necessary, the number of entities required to explain
anything, or that person should not make more assumptions than
the minimum needed. This principal is often called the principal
of parsimony. Since the Middle ages it has played an important
role in eliminating unnecessary elements from explanations.
- Mr Gardiner seeks to apply this principal to justify the lack
of any evidence on his side of the rebuttal and in his own words
"an interpretation which makes fewer assumptions is to
be preferred to one that makes more". This is of course
nonsense in relation to an archaeological investigation of unseen
evidence since Occam's razor cannot apply to the sciences and
many areas of life that require human experience.
- If we took Occam's razor as a principal of evaluation Einstein
could never have evaluated the equation e = mc2, Stephen Hawkin
could never have proposed the theory of black holes, the laws
of Chaos could not exist and neither the Mona Lisa not the Cisteen
Chapel would ever have been painted.
- No the Law of Occam is an outdated philosophy restricted to
a last stand, when all else fails. I would rather rely on Gillette's
Razor, at least I know I wont get my throat cut when I try to
explain how to apply it to boat parts in the Combe Haven valley.
- I hope that every time Mr Gardiner hears a reference to Occam's
razor, he will remember my advise to trust in Gillette's razor.
Reductionism is a cop-out to avoid looking at the evidence. What
is known is explainable and it is no good seeking a simple existing
solution to new scientific facts.
- From Section ten onwards of Mr Gardiner's report he looks
at the archaeological evidence. Paragraph 10.1 produces a list
of archaeological evidence which Mr Gardiner details that I have
presented as evidence.
- Mr Gardiner has omitted from this list the excavations at
the Norman camp, he has omitted the Norman boat parts, he has
omitted the Redgeland Wood evidence and the evidence for the port
at Redgeland, all of which are crucial elements in building the
case. To fail to report them here does not induce any sense of
trust in the conclusions reached.
- In section 10 Mr Gardiner deals with the resistivity survey,
which I believe I have dealt with adequately, in order for a conclusion
to be reached as to the validity or otherwise in my earlier evidence
paragraphs 424 to 448. I do not believe it is necessary to repeat
the errors Mr Gardiner has made using Mesh instead of Composite
data studies. In consequence Mr Gardiners conclusions in paragraphs
11.1 to 11.6 have no basis upon which to draw conclusions and
should be dismissed.
- Section twelve - Earthworks at Upper Wilting Farm, has also
been dealt with in paragraphs 399 to 420 and 521 to 588 of this
presentation. This includes the issues relating to the Upper Norman
fort, the earthen bank across Monkham inlet, and the lynchets.
These have all been dealt with except for a number of small details
where Mr Gardiner uses the words "it seems probable"
12.6.2 to seek to explain pits, where no excavation has been undertaken
and offers opinions on a number of small items, where no visual
excavation has been taken.
- It is clear to me and should be clear to those here that Mr
Gardiner has not produced one single element of proof in the whole
of this working paper. His sole case rests upon Occam's Razor
in a vain attempt to fall back on the conventional landing story
at Pevensey, without examining any of the archaeological evidence.
- He states in his conclusion (paragraph 14.3) that my "archaeological
remains he uncovered are no longer open to view and cannot be
re-examined" This is of course nonsense, as I have stated
earlier. Does he expect these remains to be left open to the air
for his arrival one day, should he decide to look - NO
- Mr Gardiner has no case at all.
- What I dislike about the Gardiner Critique is not what Mr
Gardiner includes in his Critique, but what he deliberately omits.
- On page numbers 194 and 195 of his own book entitled The South
East to AD 1000 he refers to the Saxon Shore Forts having yielded
stamped Roman tiles of the British Fleet. He states that "Elsewhere
in the Weald the fleet's stamped tiles have been found..at Beauport
Park" I will remind you Beauport Park was the largest
iron producing Roman bloomery is south-east England. The text
continues:
- "At Beauport Park about 1,600 Classic Britannica tiles
were found in association with a well preserved six room bath
house. The large number of stamped tiles clearly demonstrate the
connection between the fleet and the bath house". Mr
Gardiner does not mention this connection in his report or the
report, when looking at the Roman connection with Beauport or
the port at Combe Haven - the nearest port to Beauport. He also
writes "There is a curious gap in the string of ports
between the trading centres of Kent and the port of Hamwic in
Southampton. No-where along the Sussex coastline has a port of
comparable size been found". Indeed he goes on to write
"The archaeological evidence for many of these ports is
very sparse indeed. At neither Fordwich nor Sandwich has pottery
from this period been found, and they are known as ports only
from documentary records".
- So what we have here is confirmation, in Mr Gardiner's own
handwriting so to speak, that there may well be no evidence of
any substance to provide the obvious clues that one might expect
for a port in this area, because the other ports from the same
period in history have failed to produce what you might expect.
- However for me the major omission is from page 227 where Mr
Gardiner states "Beyond Hastings, still along the coast,
was Bulverhythe. The place name means "the harbour of the
citizens" and it is usually suggested that it was a subsidiary
port for the people of Hastings. It is however, equally possible
that there was a small town here, lying east of Bexhill, for Domesday
records twenty burgesses under the entry for Bullington, which
lay very close to Bulverhythe. Thus along this short length of
the south-east coast of Kent and Sussex was a group of ports which
developed in years around 1,000 to serve the increased level of
contact with France, and such was the scale of trade and wealth
of the hinterland that they were able to develop into towns. None
of these towns, excepting Rye, has been subject to archaeological
investigation and no finds dateable to before the thirteenth century
were discovered there."
- So Mr Gardiner says one thing in his book and seeks to prefer
that this information does not exist when asked by the Highways
Agency or their representatives, to challenge it. Why would he
seek to argue that Roman pottery would be normal in the shore
fort (his Proof of Evidence paragraph 4.2.4), which I claim is
connected to Beauport Park when he knows that this is not normal?
Why would he seek to deny that there is a port on the Combe Haven
valley, when he reports the probable existence of one at Bulverhythe
in his own book?
- I do not believe we are getting the full shilling from Mr
Gardiner's critique, we are being given the dance of the seven
veils, where now you see it, now you don't, is more appropriate
than a serious examination of all the evidence in relation to
the case.
- From what I have read of Mr Gardiner's work he makes no pretence
at finding the truth. He employs what ever technique, literary,
or otherwise, including interpreting my words to suit his case,
in order to make or score a point, where non would otherwise exist.
I must therefore ask the inspector to dismiss Mr Gardiner's report
as unreliable
- I have spent several years of my life preparing the evidence
for the site at Wilting. I am amazed that with all the resources
available to it the Highways Agency have adamantly failed to properly
investigate my claims. No excavations have taken place and no-one
has taken the claim seriously.
- The consequence of failing to conduct due diligence is an
inherent cost to the taxpayer of requiring the current published
route to be diverted and the associated costs that this will involve.
This might be because of the new rules for Public Inquiries where
routes are published as the Inquiry progresses. However Mr Gardiner's
statement in his Proof paragraph 4.2.11 that it was "not
considered appropriate to trench the sites of the iron Age fort,
the Roman fort or the two Norman forts" is in my view
inexcusable given the issues of national importance raised by
the site. I believe this one failing will require the published
route to be altered to allow the excavations that are required
to satisfy due diligence. Since to have failed to do this leaves
open the question of whether Wilting is the Norman Invasion site
or not. Since neither Mr Gardiner nor anyone else has provided
one shred of evidence to counter my in depth proposals that Upper
Wilting contains the site of the first Norman Camp and the Norman
Invasion landing site.
- In these circumstances I do not believe it is possible for
a decision to be made where the landing and camp site could be
put at risk, where a cheaper alternative, less damaging ecological
route is available to be chosen. This is of course route S3A which
I shall deal with shortly.
- However I now need to tie up some loose ends in relation to
the archaeological work which needs explaining before addressing
the issue of the alternative S3A route.
- Firstly the issue of Graves
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